Today I talk to Annmarie Miles the Publicity Officer for the Association of Christian Writers. There's more to it than you might think.
Today I talk to Annmarie Miles the Publicity Officer for the Association of Christian Writers. There's more to it than you might think.
Hi, and welcome to the writing and marketing show brought to you by author Wendy H. Jones. This show does exactly what it says on the tin. it's jam packed with interviews, advice, hints, tips and news to help you with the business of writing. It's all wrapped up in one lively podcast, so it's time to get on with the show. And welcome to episode 112 of the writing and Marketing Show with author entrepreneur Wendy H. Jones. And it's a pleasure to be with you here once again for episode 112. Isn't that flashing past quickly? Today, I'm going to be talking to Henri Miles, who is a publicity officer for the Association of Christian writers. And I'm going to be talking about the association of Christian writers, as I continue with my series on the different organisations that authors can join and how they can help them to support them on their author journey. And I'll be interviewing people from the mall. But before that what's been happening in my life? Well, I'm one week closer to the Scottish sociation of Writers Conference. And because of that, I've decided that I'm going to keep myself pretty much to myself in the house for the next couple of weeks. And the reason for that is even though I'm fully vaccinated, I haven't yet heard COVID. And I'm trying to keep as COVID free as possible. So because I'm the president of the Scottish sociation of writers and I pretty much need to be at their conference. And I've been told by the Vice President that he might kill me if I get covered, because he really doesn't want to step in and take over for the weekend. And I don't want to miss it as well, because I'm very much looking forward to it. So I'm going to be keeping out of the way and keeping myself to myself and keeping us covered free as I can so I can get through the conference. And after the conference, I've got five days holiday, which I'm really looking forward to just a way to relax and do nothing really for five days, do a bit of sightseeing, read, watch television, listen to music, listen to podcasts, that'll pretty much be it. No writing for the five days, I've promised as a birthday present, that I will behave myself and not do any writing. Before we get on and we hear from Henri I would like to say it's a pleasure to bring you the show every week. I do it willingly. But it does take time out of my writing. If you would like to support me for just $3 a month, you can do so@patreon.com forward slash Wendy H Jones. And you can support me for just $3 which is the price of a tea or coffee. And it would mean that you enjoy the show. And that you want me to continue and I would be very grateful. I know times are tough at the moment because of all the utility bills and all the prices going up. But if you think you can't afford to every month, then just a one off donation. He goes my website and click on Buy me a coffee, then you can just get buy me a coffee $3 And that would be great. So I'm now going to tell you about Anne Marie. As I say Henri is the publicity officer of the Scottish association of writers. And she's also a very good friend of mine. And so she lives in Wales at the moment she was born and raised in Dublin in Ireland, but she now lives in South Wales. She writes long and short fiction as well as web articles and blog posts. She is a volunteer with UCB, Ireland and has a podcast called Words wobbles and wisdom, all about third weight and fifth. She also loves social media as well as being a CWS publicity and social media officer. She runs her own small venture sunflower tech, helping tech shy people get to grips with smart technology and social media. And Marie is married to Richard who is a church minister. They live surrounded by books, gadgets and fridge fridge magnets, you can find Annemarie on social media by looking for am or writing or www dot anually miles.co.uk. And she's a very good writer, a very good friend and also very knowledgeable about the association of Christian writers. So without further ado, let's get on with the show. Hear from Anne Marie and find out more about ECW. And we have Anne Marie with us. Welcome on Marie.
Annmarie Miles:Thank you. Great to be on your podcast. Wendy, thank you so much for inviting me
Wendy Jones:Oh, it's an absolute pleasure. It's always a pleasure to chat to you and really, you're so entertaining. I believe you're in Wales at the moment. Yeah,
Annmarie Miles:that's right. I live in South Wales in Pontypool not 1215 miles from character.
Wendy Jones:All right, in the valleys. Yeah. Yeah. I like Porthcawl. I like to Oh, yeah. Love Porthcawl. Lovely. Nice and by the sea. Yeah. But that's not a whale shark sent your sports net?
Annmarie Miles:No, no I'm working on me Welsh accent but at the moment I'm using me own. I'm from Dublin originally born and raised in Dublin in Ireland.
Wendy Jones:I love Dublin.
Annmarie Miles:Yeah, just back actually, Iwent there I went and visit some family so it's been lovely.
Wendy Jones:Nice. The only thing with Dublin is you need to you know be a multimillionaire to spend one night there.
Annmarie Miles:Yeah, yeah, if I if people tell me they're you know, they're going to Dublin for a trip I always say Save save save before you know you can't do it's a bit like going to Paris you can't do it on a budget. You know, you have to have a few bob with you. But it is is good fun.
Wendy Jones:Yeah, I've been four times I love it.The Book of Kells? Yeah, yeah, I think anybody would take it out. And really, we're not on to the thing. And we've digressed. We're like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And a Scotsman and an Irishman together, and they'll chat about everything everything except what they are meant to be chatting about. So maybe, maybe we better stick to the script to write my lines ready? You've got your lines ready, right? This is going to be a laugh a minute, I can tell. Right? What today we're going to be talking about the association of Christian writers. And it's an organisation very dear to my heart. Because it's been, it's been part of my writing journey since the get go, really. And so so but a lot of people might not have heard of it. So we're sort of we're all starting from the same place. What exactly is the association of Christian writers?
Annmarie Miles:Well, it is a, it is a fellowship of, of writers that I it started, in fact, this year, we're going to be celebrating a big anniversary. And it's a Fellowship of Christian writers started, you know, 50 years ago, and it originally was actually called the Fellowship of Christian Rogers. And it was where a group of people got together. And they joined together for encouragement, and, you know, fellowship. And they actually, as far as I know, I don't know the complete history. But as far as I know, a lot of it was done with pen paper and letter when they, when they couldn't meet, face to face as a standard to grow. And people outside of the original group, it became, you know, a writer writing communication was the was the main way that they, they used to communicate, you know, by letter and for feedback, and it just kind of grew and grew and grew. And now, you know, and that, you know, the pandemic has been a catalyst for this, there's lots of online groups. And there is a Facebook group, which is very busy. There is also a prayer group on Facebook as well. And, and there's a website full of information. And there's a, there's a kind of Writer's Craft section on the website that gives tips, and we run events. And it's just, it's just a place where Christian writers can come together and get encouragement. And, in fact, the tagline of the Association of Christian writers is encourage, equip, and inspire. So very much. So it's the encouragement and then equipping by running events and training opportunities, and then inspiring by making sure that we've got lots of contact with each other and Christian contact as well, so that we pray for one another, and just just bringing together Christian writers for, you know, the building up so that when they go to do because writing is something that we do on our own a lot, isn't it, you know, it's your woman, the chair in front of the laptop, so it can be a lonely journey. And we need I think we need to be filled and encouraged and kind of buoyed off. I think, knowing that people are praying for us, knowing that people are, you know, that we've got the opportunity for fellowship within the group can really add greatly to a writer's life. I really believe that.
Wendy Jones:No, I think it's great. And I mean, I think you've hit the nail on the head there really, from my understanding of it. Obviously, you've got a greater understanding than me, because you're on the committee, and I'm not. So you know, you. You're more,
Annmarie Miles:you have served your time on the committee.
Wendy Jones:I have I haveI was a webmaster for a while. Yeah. You know, which was, which was an honour I have to say. So what would you say are the benefits to an author have been a member of se W. If somebody was saying, Well, why should I bother joining you? You know, I've got to pay that 23 pounds a year or 20 pounds? I think it is before to tell everybody is cheaper than it is 20 pounds a year to join you. And what would you say to them?
Annmarie Miles:Well, there are kind of the tangible benefits, the practical things. So there is a quarterly magazine that goes out an actual paper printed magazine that goes out four times a year, and that will have lots of advice and there are opportunities to submit to that magazine. And it will have information about our events and information about opportunities for for other submissions outside of that. interviews and articles. There is also an E News. So there's an email newsletter as well, that goes out. And that is for members who have, you know, paid that membership fee. And that goes out once every two months. And so they're the kind of the tangible things. There's also discounts, usually for members or for events. So if you're a member of the, in fact, the last few online events we've had, if you're a member of the association, there was no charge for the online events. And for bigger events, there's always a discount for members. So there is that practical, kind of tangible, and those things that you can say, right, these are things you can see touch and feel about being a member. But I think the other the other opportunities, even though the Facebook group is open to any Christian writer, doesn't have to be a member and doesn't have to be from the UK. And they're the benefits of that kind of really connected fellowship. And being in the loop as it were, with the news that's in the magazine and with the news that's in the news, you kind of get the inside track on what's happening, because that's where the information will always be, first and foremost. And then there are other discounts as well. But I'm going to I'm going to repeat myself in a sense, because there's there is great fellowship, this great prayer encouragement. And there are, you know, feedback services. And what we've done. In the last couple of years through the lockdown, the group dynamics have changed. So instead of being all geographically based groups, we as well as those groups who a lot of them have kind of started to run again, there are genre based groups. So there's a fiction group, there's a non fiction group, there's a children's writing group, there's a poetry group that, you know, there's all these, um, there's more in the pipeline. so there are some that the pain of membership just gets you kind of more of that information quicker, and you're much more clued in to what's going on. There were parts of the website that members only could access. Now that has been changed, because there were some really terrible technical trouble. So some people who are members might see that that's changed, that there aren't those bits of the website. But the one of the other benefits is you can have your books, and advertised on the Christian writers, Dakota UK website. So that's another benefit as well. So there's lots of perks to being actually in. And when you add all those things up, the annual fee is not. It's not so bad.
Wendy Jones:Now, I think the annual fee is good. I mean, it's one of the cheaper ones I'm a member of I have to say, how much serial joiner I mean, every organisation known Amman, yeah, you know, I, I, this is one of the cheaper ones and is very good value, I have to say extremely good value. And as you say, the fact that you get a lot of things online for free. That's really good. Really good. And so why do you think it's important as an organisation which supports Christian writers?
Annmarie Miles:Well, I think writing in general, and the arts are hugely important. You know, before, you know, before we even talk about the God, but I think you know, you music and the arts, they're just so vital for well being. I mean, it's it's approved, you know, if you go and look at some research going and going and investigate research will show the benefits, you know, of the arts to general well being. And you you look at the research done in schools that that schools had that have removed the creative arts, you know, that they've run out of money. So they're moving the creative arts of their curriculum, and are, are struggling because that creative side of life is not as not kind of giving a well rounded, the better well rounded education. So in general, I'm a firm believer that the arts are hugely important to well being and to societal well being, I genuinely believe that. But I think for Christians, where our writing will not always necessarily be about Christian things. Some Christians writes, specifically Christian stuff, some don't some, some write, you know, wider, wider fiction and nonfiction. But I think as Christians, we need the support of each other. Because I would say probably all I would imagine all of us, I haven't spoken to every single member. But I would imagine all of us feel that God is giving us the things that we right now he has given us our creativity, He's given us our inspiration. He gives us our ideas. And if we're doing something that God wants us to do, there's usually something else coming at us. That doesn't want us to do it. There's you know, so I think the The encouragement that we can guess, the fellowship that we can get. And again, I'm saying the same words again, and again, because I think the benefits are all tied into each other. And the prayer as well. I mean, we pray as a committee for each other, we pray for the membership, we pray, we pray for the people in the Facebook group, we pray for our events, I mean, the amount of prayer that goes in to events, and on the day, there was always a designated prayer. For every single event, there was a desert designated prayer time for an event before us, because we believe this is something God wants us to do. This is something God has brought to the person who's presenting the workshop or whatever. And so there's masses of prayer plugged in to the events as well. Yeah, so we've got that extra dynamic of that creativity, we've also got the spiritual connection to it as well. And again, for our big celebration, coming up massive amounts of prayer going into all this for the speakers, the people who are attending the people who are organising it, the different jobs we have on the committee. And I think that's the extra element for Christian writers and a Christian group as we bring the power of prayer into everything that we do.
Wendy Jones:Now, that's a really good way of putting it to be honest. And I think that you're right, you know, that it's built on something other than just the writing. But the writing is important in and of itself. But the Christian element in his makes it really powerful. It takes me quite nicely on to my next question, which is, I'm sure there are people thinking, Well, I don't write Christian books. So I can't join as the focus just on people who write for the Christian market, or anybody who's a Christian.
Annmarie Miles:It's for anybody who's a Christian, there are plenty of people who don't write overtly, or specifically, Christian books. So it's for anyone who is a Christian who is a writer. And then like I say, there are genre groups and different ways. I mean, in fact, a good thing to do if you were, if somebody who was listening want to do investigated, go to Christian writers.co.uk, go to the bookshop, which is one of the tabs on the website, and just have a look at the of the wealth and breadth of books that are there. You don't have to be writing Christian fiction or Christian nonfiction to join. It's for writers of any genre who are Christians.
Wendy Jones:Brilliant. Well, I mean, to be honest, my books are not particularly Christian. They're not not Christian. But I'm a member. So you know, yeah, we do have people that write you know, crime books or romance or, you know, yeah, but they just happen to be Christians.
Annmarie Miles:Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So,
Wendy Jones:I know it's a UK wide organisation. But coming from Scotland, I always have to ask this question. And you're from Ireland know, Wales. So yeah. Question. Yeah. I always have to ask it, what benefits of those there for those not living in England?
Annmarie Miles:So there are I mean, I'm like you say you're in Scotland, diamond, Wales. And so there are groups, there's plenty of groups in Scotland. Now. It's a terrible pity our groups based in Wales haven't kind of kind of got going again after the after the lockdown. So if there are Christian martyrs in Wales, who would be interested, get in touch with me or the group's come to the Facebook page, you'll find it you're looking for Richard Palmer, he looks after the group. So but I think we also have overseas members. So we have a designated person on the committee called Katherine. And she looks after our overseas members. So she's, that's specifically part of her role. She looks after our overseas members. And she looks after our connection to EMI, which is the immediate associates International, who we support. And, and that's connected with literal. So that's kind of a worldwide organisation that supports writers who are living in places where they wouldn't have the opportunities, and the way we would kind of on this side of Europe. So Catherine looks after overseas membership fees. She's plugged into what's happening in NaVi, she's plugged into lit world. So in case people feel that, you know, all the events are in England, and all the interest is in England, even though yes, this is where we're based. We are based in the UK, there is we do have a vision beyond that. And even within the Facebook group, we've got lots of people who are not either not English in England or not originally from England, you know, they've moved into the area or they've moved countries and now they're connected with us. And it's a wonderful, wide variety of people that we have from across Europe and beyond. And we've got plenty of people from Africa in the group as well, which is wonderful. And it's it is it, you know, up to before lockdown and up to say maybe even five years ago, it was I think it was an issue. I think geography was an issue. But I think one of the benefits of the lockdown is that it has opened those barriers. It has made zoom commonplace. It has made online events commonplace. So the event that I was doing the social media one with a lady who was in Israel, she she joined it, you know, we got we actually did have people from outside. So I think that's the fact that we've got genre groups now. So you don't have to be, you can be in one of the geographically located groups. But you could join the writing for children group from anywhere in the world. Yeah. This is the great thing as I think it's one of the benefits of zoom. So our focus is not even though yes, geographically, it's where we are. And geographically, it's where most of our events go, we now have an online presence and an online kind of format for events that I would imagine will keep will keep running with well, we'll have the two in tandem, we'll have the geography, you know, we will be in a place at a time, but we'll also probably keep the online option. And anybody, any Christian writer from anywhere, can come and join us.
Wendy Jones:Excellent, great answer. And that is true. It's I mean, I'm in the Scottish association of writers, which was very Scottish focus, until zoom, and now we've got members from all over the world. It's like, it's wonderful, isn't it? What's the writing group, some of them have moved online, and we've got members from all over the world. So it's great. Only the only positive of a pandemic, which much to say, but hey, at least something good came out. Yeah,
Annmarie Miles:I think it's, I think it's made, like you say it's made groups, and it's made learning and mutual encouragement and mutual kind of interest. It has made it just so more, much more accessible to people outside of the kind of the standard places that you learn these. Yes. So yeah, it's wonderful. anybody no matter where you're listening to this, no matter where you are, if you are a Christian writer, you are welcome. We would love it. We'd love to have you
Wendy Jones:and they would make you welcome. I can second that really welcoming organisation. Now I know the organisation was 50 last year, oh, celebrations had to be delayed because we're locked down. Apart from one we managed to go in London, you can tell us about what happened there. But what have you got planned for the 50th anniversary?
Annmarie Miles:Yeah, so the big, the big celebration is called worth our wait in golf. So it's Huawei, W O W I G. And that is going to be held in the Hays in Swanwick in June, and we've got Adrian and Bridget Plass going to be there. We've got Paul Carenza, Anne Booth, Tony Collins, and Jonathan Bryan. So we've got a series of speakers who are going to be doing different things over the weekend. We've got a celebration dinner then on the Saturday night, and a church, sorry, a senator's service down on the Sunday morning. And we're going to be there from the Friday evening through to after Sunday lunch. In the haze and Sonic, we went on a bit of a rocky, we had our community, our committee retreat in the haze a few weeks ago. So we went to spend a bit of time with each other as a committee face to face because obviously we hadn't been able to well, we also used it as a kind of reconnaissance mission to check out the venues check out rooms, see how we would work things. And we're very excited. We're so looking forward to bookings are open and coming in. And we just can't wait. We can't wait for it.
Wendy Jones:Excellent. Well, hey, that I'm sure that'll be a fabulous event. In May. Did you say sorry?
Annmarie Miles:It's in June,
Wendy Jones:June, June. And you also launched a book in October, November?
Annmarie Miles:We Yeah, the right. Well, so that was the I want to say that the title of it properly. Let me say, let me just give me a sec to find it. And I won't read the title. I
Wendy Jones:can't remember what it is either. But I will say while you're looking at that. I've got a chapter in it. And I was very excited to be able to have when I was asked, you know, yeah, I've got a chapter in it. And it's from a lot of different association of Christian writers and members are covering different aspects of, of writing, writing and writing for a Christian man. You know, I was talking about being self published. And Hi, Bobby and hybrid author, you know, which means if you're hybrid, I think, you know, you're a bit of an oddity.
Annmarie Miles:I'm not going to comment on that.
Wendy Jones:The other Yeah.
Annmarie Miles:So the full title of it is right, well, a handbook for Christian writers. Yeah. So going with the theme of 50 on the Jubilee anniversary, there are 50 pieces in it. So 10 pieces are about the history and the foundation of ECW. And then there are 20 The next 20 pieces are like our kind of like a toolkit almost, and their essays about different ways to approach publishing, writing, avoiding distractions, all sorts of different things from 20 industry experts who know what they're talking about. And then the last 20 pieces, and there was a call to members to submit, to talk about their experience and their journey within the association of Christian writers across, you know, as as much as possible across the whole of the 50 years. And so, I've, I've got one in there as well, I'm a newer member in the great scheme of things. I'm newer to it. And so it's a, it's kind of, it's got a bit of everything, it's got the history, it's got some really practical, tangible help, and in expert advice. And that's also got some stories that people tell about their involvement over the years. So and it was put together by our magazine editor, Amy Scott Robinson.
Wendy Jones:Yeah, no, it's very good. So I was very excited when I was asked to write a chapter, you know, even Yeah, it mean, I was, you know, hybrid. I am nice. I'm all over the place. No, it's great. Hybrid among the
Annmarie Miles:two bionic legs,
Wendy Jones:I have. So, as a member, what would you say you've gained from being a member of the organisation?
Annmarie Miles:Well, when I when I moved to the UK, back in 2014, so it was early 2015. And I had left Ireland, and I had a community of writers that I'd been involved with, I had self published a book, I had all of these networks and connections in Ireland. And I felt like I kind of lost at all, even though lots of stuff was available online, even back then. But I felt I lost all of that connection, and particularly with Christian writers that I knew in Ireland. And so I, for one, one of the first things I look for, we look for somewhere to live, we look for a job, and I looked for a Christian writing group. And I found a CW, then at some stage during the 2015. And for me, it was like just finding my other family. You know, you you go and look for a church because you you want to worship somewhere, but I wanted to find my writing family. And as in a family, not everybody is the same. Not everybody agrees with everybody. And everybody's got different things that they focus on. But we are, you know, we are kind of bonded by that familial thing. And for me to have that Christian writing family was so beneficial for me, that there were people who would encourage me, there were people who would pray for me. And there were events that I could go to where Christian writers were speaking, or I just ended up sitting drinking coffee with you were one of them, you're probably one of the first people I, I got to know, when I went to Leeds for my first event. And I ended up sitting down for lunch with somebody else. And just to be in a room of people who get it, who get what the writers life is like, but also that spiritual side of things as well. And of course, the magazine is just fabulous. It's just such a such a great blessing to receive. But when it comes, you know,
Wendy Jones:The magazine is excellent. Plus, you can write it as well. So that's another benefit.
Annmarie Miles:Yes, of course, you can submit submit to it as well. Yeah, it's, it's wonderful. And it's just recently changed hands. It was James Prescott was the editor for a few years, and now it's changed as Amy Scott Robinson is now the editor. So it's, you know, James did a fantastic job. And, you know, Amy has kind of got to put her, her stamp on it as well. So it's, I think it's really good to keep things fresh to keep a fresh pair of eyes on things every so often, you know, the committee changes out like you were on a one stage. And so it's not kind of the same group of people for years and years and years and years and years. So it's the committee and hopefully the organisation is constantly growing and, and changing, you know, for the better and looking out there to see what is there that we can, you know, what is what can we bring, what can we feed into the Christian writing life across the country and hopefully across the world? So,
Wendy Jones:yeah, yeah, no, that's good. And it's the committee do a fabulous job, I have to say, you know, Amy is doing a great job. Magazine is excellent. So I know you're a published author. So tell us about your own books.
Annmarie Miles:So I'm self published are anything I've written apart from submissions to some ECW books and a couple of other things I so I self published. I self published a collection of short stories in 2014 then I republish that then 2018 Because the the company I published through had changed their model, their business model. So then I just self published it. Myself. on Amazon. And then I published a second collection of short stories. And then I self published a novel. And I'm a very happy, self published person. I'm not. I'm not chasing a publishing deal. I'm not looking for a publisher, certainly not for my fiction. My non AI, there is a project in the background that maybe I will pursue more, but I'm very happy to write it as best I can have an edited and and self publish. I'm not I'm not looking for. I'm not looking for an agent or a publisher.
Wendy Jones:Excellent. Hey, so self published, I am independent. Independent, permanently published. Yeah. So you know, and I'm, I'm proud of it. But I've also publisher for other things. Yeah. You know, it's the best of both worlds. And whatever we publish now, it's equally valid.
Annmarie Miles:I think it I think you're I agree with that. And I think the important thing is, as independently published writers is that we strive for excellence. Yeah, that because anybody in fairness, can write a book and stick it up on Amazon. Anybody could do that. Yeah. So do you know so we, I think we need to decide that we're not going to do that we are going to strive for excellence. We're going to have somebody who knows what they're talking about to to edit our work we're going to have, but there's no point in giving it to your mommy, because she loves you. Anyway, she's going to tell you, or your mommy will tell you, she loves it. And your big sister will tell you she hates it, because she thinks you're just an annoying kid is that you know, you have impartial people in your life. Who will be honest with you about your work, you've got to have another pair of eyes on it. Because I don't know about you, but I can prove my own work. I don't see the mistakes once I've read it more than twice I don't see it at all. So I think we can we can still strive for excellence in independently published work. And I think we should I absolutely think we should. I have my covers professionally designed but then I confess I do have a sister who's a graphic designer. So she does my work for me. And and I have a friend who is a proofreader, and if she doesn't edit for me in that sense, because she's my friend, but she she proofs, the I, you know, the dotting of the eyes and the commas and full stops. And that's what she does professionally. And then I have other people edit my work for me when I get to when it gets to that stage. And I think we have to do that. I think we can't just be bashing stuff on Amazon, just because we can. And because that's part of the reason why independently published authors can get a bad rap. So yeah, let's strive for excellence and make it the best that we can make it you know, and then get it out there.
Wendy Jones:I agree. I couldn't I could not agree more, as they say, with peas in a pod.
Annmarie Miles:I say except for the accents.
Wendy Jones:The accents are celt. So Celtic we'll run with it. That's it Celtic cousins.. So, my final question Where Can anyone listening find out more about the association of Christian writers.
Annmarie Miles:So the best place to go is Christian writers.co.uk. You don't need the www, you just put in Christian writers.co.uk. And you land on the homepage and all the links are there. You can look for the Association of Christian writers group, a need to put the word group in to join the group if you wanted to. Or we have social media pages, Facebook, Instagram, we've got a great Twitter feed. We've got a team of people who look after the Twitter feed. And it's a fantastic feed actually, it's it's it's something fresh published every day. And there's often quite a good lot of discussion going on. So if you want to follow us on Twitter, where a CW 1971, which is the start the year off starting the early founding,
Wendy Jones:whenever that was called at w 1971. On Twitter, everything else is there. We're all twits on Twitter.
Annmarie Miles:Absolutely.
Wendy Jones:Thank you very much. I'm very it's been an absolute pleasure.
Annmarie Miles:Thank you. And it's been lovely to be here. I really appreciate being here. I love your blog. Sorry. I love your podcast. Should I say I really
Wendy Jones:I hope you love my blog as well. But as often as it doesn't get published as often as a podcast so hey,
Annmarie Miles:yeah, I'm the same. I'm the same Yeah, more I more geared toward my podcast these days than anything else. But as cold before we go, I podcast, his words, wobbles in wisdom. It's about food and waste and being a Christian who's overweight and trying to encourage myself and other people and in weight loss in long term kind of weight loss.
Wendy Jones:That's an absolutely fabulous title for a podcast. I wish I thought that great title for the podcast.
Annmarie Miles:Yeah. So it's kind of got words as in, you know, the talk and then the wobbles are not only Physical wobbles from being overweight, but also the kind of mental and emotional wobbles we can have. Because I talk a bit about mental weight as well, sorry, mental health as well. And the wisdom that I try and bring God's wisdom into it. So that's that's where the
Wendy Jones:. Fantastic, right. We all need to rush and listen to that. Thank you. Have a great day.
Annmarie Miles:You too. Thanks a million Wendy. God bless you.
Wendy Jones:Bye bye. That brings us to the end of another show. It was really good to have you on the show with me today. I'm Wendy H Jones. And you can find me at Wendy H jones.com. You can also find me on Patreon where you can support me for as little as $3 a month which is less than the price of a tea or coffee. You go to patreon.com forward slash Wendy H Jones. I'm also went to H Jones on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Pinterest. Thank you for joining me today and I hope you found it both useful and interesting. Join me next week when I will have another cracking guest for you. Until then, have a good week. And keep writing keep reading and keep learning